ODR versus night setback thermostats

ODR versus thermostat night set-back

There are many homeowners confused with night setback and outdoor reset (ODR). The confusion is the use of night setback with the use of ODR becoming more common today. First, let's explain the difference.

Night Setback - This is when you manually or the thermostat automatically turns down the temperature of the home at night or when the house is unoccupied. Many years ago this was proven to be a fuel saver

Outdoor Reset - This is when a control senses the outdoor air temperature via an outside sensor and re-adjusts the system or boiler water temperature up or down to match the heat loss of the home and save fuel. As the outdoor air temperature gets colder, the heating water gets hotter, and as the outside air temperature gets warmer, the heating water gets cooler. This may be better explained here.

Pro’s of Each

Night Setback

  • Most people like cooler air temperatures when sleeping
  • Can assist in saving fuel because the closer the inside temperature is to the outside temperature, the heat loss decreases.
  • When these thermostats became more popular in the seventies, the manufacturer suggested a 6% fuel savings

Outdoor Reset

  • Maximizes comfort by circulating cooler water around the home for a longer period
  • It is estimated to save up to 20% on fuel
  • Easy enough for the homeowner to fine-tune control settings for their home

Con’s of each


Night Setback

  • Need more sophisticated thermostats
  • These were first introduced when houses were not as tight. The higher the heat loss due to the need for new windows, doors, weather stripping, and added insulation, the more important the night setback became. This was due to the heat leaving the structure more quickly. By reducing the indoor temperature, you would save fuel
  • The need for night setback for energy savings is less important due to tighter homes today.

Outdoor Reset

  • A need for another control with an outdoor sensor. The sensor should be positioned away from sunlight, heat sources, and above snow levels.
  • The interconnecting wire must stay away from power sources, magnetic fields, and any other electrical noise-producing items. If not, it will affect the reading the control sees on the outdoor sensor. The use of shielded wire will eliminate these problems. Shielded wire is a type of wire that features a braided outer wrap. You unravel the metal shield and ground one end of it.
  • The use of ODR along with night setback thermostats will cause the warmup time in the morning or when coming out of unoccupied mode to be severely affected due to reduced heating water temperature. When the water temperature is reduced the heat output is reduced from the radiation.
  • Requires more homework to set up the control properly. Most are left at default settings.

2012 Compliance
On September first of 2012 the code changed. A boiler reset will be required on all boiler installations. Although this does not necessarily mean Outdoor reset using an OD sensor, I believe its use will become more commonplace at that time. This means that to maximize fuel savings, OD reset parameters should be properly dialed in.

Night setback in conjunction with ODR


When discussing fuel savings, this is normally not a good combination due to reduced water temperature in the baseboard. The recovery time may take hours and become very uncomfortable during the wait. Many ODR controls now feature a boost function. This means the ODR will override the lower heating water temperatures by normally 10f at a time. This boost feature works on a timer. Every time the timer times out, it will raise the boiler water temperature by 10F, until it hits the boiler's high limit. The downside of this feature is that it may not be suitable for multiple zone systems or slow-reacting systems, such as radiant floor heating or cast iron radiation. The boost feature will always raise the system water temperature, as it does not distinguish between thermostat temperature recovery, prolonged heat demands, or overlapping zone demands.
There are intelligent thermostats today that will learn how long it takes to bring the house temperature up and will start turning up the temperature much earlier. This will reduce the setback time. We have a few options that will still save us fuel. Since ODR will save us far more money than the setback and improve indoor comfort, I would choose a room temperature and leave it set without changing it. If you do a night setback, limit the setback temperature to two to three degrees, and use a thermostat that will learn how long it takes to bring the home up to temperature.

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