Indirect Water Heater running out of hot water

Indirect Water Heater Running Out of Hot Water

There is nothing worse than jumping in the shower or bath and you run out of hot water. This is not addressing a technical problem like a control or circulator failure. We are going to address everything on the tank is working as it should be but, the tank is running out of hot water.

Let’s understand first the sizing of the tank. It should be sized for the domestic hot water usage in the home. We have discussed the indirect hot water tank sizing on a different web page. I am more concerned here with the draw of hot water is too great for the recovery time of the tank.

4 things are important in good operation and not running out of hot water
  • Tank sizing
  • Boiler Size
  • Pipe Size
  • Circulator size

Looking at a spec on the Utica H2O indirect water heater tank. We need to understand the information the manufacture is telling us. Here is the ratings chart

Utica-H2O IWH Chart

The Ratings chart is telling us among other important information is the model number, first hour rating and boiler size to meet the tank ratings. We’ll look at the Model H2O140UB and a boiler temperature of 180f and a tank temperature of 140f. The rating is 221 gallons per hour. First hour rating means storage and recovery of water.

Usable Water volume

The Model H2O140UB is a 40-gallon water tank. The usable water is how much water you can draw until it drops below the tank control setting in this example is 140f. We can calculate the usable water with the following formula.

Tank size in gallons * 0.75 = Usable Capacity

40 (tank gallons) * 0.75 = 30 gallons usable plus

After you draw about 30-gallons and the tank is not operating you will be running out of hot water.

Smaller Boiler Recovery Rate

Let’s assume the boiler is an 80,000 btu boiler instead of 139,000

Boiler Output/(8.33*60*90) = Recovery

80,000/45,000 = Recovery 1.7

Usable Water + (Recovery *60) = New First hour rating

40 +( 1.7 gpm*60) = 142 gallons

Difference of 79 gallons in the first hour rating  (221 gallons – 142 gallons)

First Hour Rating/60 = GPM Draw

Faucet draw to not run out of hot water 142 First Hour / 60 Minutes = 2.4 gpm

 

Faucet Draw

If you exceed this you will run out of hot water. What happens if our boiler is smallerawr to meet the heat loss of the home which is common to do and is the proper way to size the boiler.

We can see the smaller boiler will produce less water to the faucet. If we increase the boiler size we will cause a problem with the boiler short cycling and increasing the fuel bill.

Running Out of Hot Water

If there is a problem with running out of hot water from an indirect tank

Possible causes (new install);

  • Mixing valve fault
  • House pressure too high – increases flow through the faucet
  • Exceeding GPM flow through tank
  • Piping between the boiler and tank is undersized
  • Circulator undersized
  • Incorrect pump setting
  • Under sized boiler
  • Undersized tank

Before throwing away the tank or boiler try this

Is there a way to increase the amount of DHW draw without changing the tank or the boiler? Yes, this may be an easy fix by just adding a mixing valve. Although this is a way to add dhw draw it still may not give what you need. It always comes down to the GPM draw.

We first need to determine the tempered capacity. The formula to determine the storage capacity is;

(Tmix-Tinc) / (Tstored-Tinc) = SF

Where;

SF = Storage Factor
Tmix = The selected mix water temperature
Tinc = The incoming water temperature
Tstored = Tank Storage temperature
We will use the information from above and a 120°f and a determined 50°f incoming water temperature.
(120°f-50°f)/(160°f-50°f)
70/110 = 0.63 Storage Factor

 

Usable Capacity/Storage Factor = Tempered Capacity

40 / 0.63 = 63.5 Tempered Capacity

This is an increase of 23.5-gallon capacity

New First Hour Rating 142 (above) + 63.5 Tempered capacity = 205.5 

The new faucet draw would not be 205.5/60 = 3.4 GPM

You could run 3.4gpm all day and not run out of hot water with this much smaller boiler.

I am not addressing the tank pipe sizing or the circulator sizing as I have cover them on other pages.

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